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Motorcyclist Tried to Lure Child From Restaurant Bathroom, Cops Say

Eight-year-old boy says a biker, who may have been in town for the Ridgewood Motorcycle Classic, approached him in the bathroom of The Daily Treat.

Ridgewood police are investigating a potential child luring incident involving a motorcyclist and a young boy that occurred in the bathroom of The Daily Treat Sunday afternoon.

According to Lt. William Amoruso, an eight-year-old Ridgewood boy was washing his hands in the bathroom of The Daily Treat early Sunday afternoon when a man behind him tapped him on the shoulder.

"Come with me," the man told the boy, according to police. The boy rebuffed and the man left the restroom without incident, Amoruso said.

Police said the boy then followed where the man went and saw him head to a black motorcycle in the back parking lot of the restaurant. The boy's family then alerted police. He was unharmed.

Several hundred motorcyclists were in Ridgewood Sunday for the 7th annual Ridgewood Motorcycle Classic.

The individual in question was described by police as a "dark-skinned male, approximately 6'0" with brown hair, wearing a black buttoned-down shirt, blue jeans and grey work boots." He was reportedly carrying a black motorcycle helmet with a front visor.

"We immediately searched the area and checked video surveillance footage," Amoruso said. The search did not yield a suspect and police are continuing to investigate the incident, he added.

Anyone with information regarding the incident or an individual matching the description of the suspect are urged to contact Detective Doug Henky at 201-251-4536 or the police desk at 201-652-3900.

A 13-year-old girl reported to village police on Oct. 12 that three men tried to lure her into their vehicle while she was walking home from school on Lincoln Avenue.

Police do not believe the incidents are connected.

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Rezzy October 21, 2012 at 11:47 PM
It just doesn't make sense- why would the boy follow the man out of the bathroom, far enough to see what the man was driving? Sounds a little blown out of proportion. I have a 7 and 9 year old, if this happened to them, they'd be scared out of their wits and come running to me, his parent, instead of chasing the alleged abductor into the parking lot.
RB October 22, 2012 at 12:24 AM
In my opinion, no 8 year old should be going into a public restroom without a parent.
Mikka H October 22, 2012 at 10:36 AM
What? so the kid follows the guy through 2 heavy doors to the back parking lot and gets a description of the motorcycle? whats wrong here....
jp1 October 22, 2012 at 12:32 PM
Something with this story does not seem right.
Moist Cake October 22, 2012 at 12:46 PM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sensationalism I would assume at this point hysteria is the proper word to describe these events of late and while there may be one, two perhaps three true incidents of luring (which is a stupid phrase, were not fishing, its attempted kidnapping) mostly likely by the same sick individual, the majority of other cases were either made up, which is extremely troublesome as it will land innocent people in jail or vastly over reported which drains resources to follow a no lead. I believe that we may be also causing fear in children, causing them to report and exaggerate events beyond their true intention. At this juncture, the media should just tell people not to talk to any children but their own otherwise expect a police report. We have totally transformed our lives around the illusion of safety and that absolute safety is attainable, which its not. I expect around December to read about incident where santas are luring kids to sit on their laps amongst other incidents, we should probably stop that practice too. Although totally unrelated to the incident of attempted kidnappings, but related to media caused hysteria the red scare seems to come to mind when I read stories like this in the media for weeks and weeks. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Scare
Phil Ross October 22, 2012 at 12:55 PM
Lisa, it seems as if you are more concerned with the reputation of a "Biker Event" than the safety of our children. I'm a biker and didn't take any offense to the article what so ever. However, being a parent and a person who works with children on a daily basis, I am offended by your response and think that you need to get your priorities in order.
Phil Ross October 22, 2012 at 12:57 PM
Well said. I replied directly to her. She doesn't appear to be very bright.
RdgwdGRock October 22, 2012 at 01:08 PM
Moist Cake - you make many valid points. I use common sense, and do not even say a simple "Hello" to kids in my neighborhood. We live in different times, and accused of this type of crime (even if not true) can lead people to say "well, perhaps he/she did do it".
J.D. Luke October 22, 2012 at 01:32 PM
The current situation reminds me more of the hysteria over sexual predators at day care centers a few decades back. Parents are (rightfully of course) concerned about their kids, and it doesn't take many incidents to lead to a full-blown scare. There were a few genuine problems, but sadly quite a few folks who weren't making any mischief lost their reputations and livelihoods. Oh yes, and there were a few 'experts' who turned out to be making things worse with leading interview questions and the like. Be vigilant, watch your kids, but try to avoid paranoia, that won't serve anyone. Oh, and I will continue to offer children a smile and a wave. I like kids (not just my own boys) and they seem to like me.
Sheryl Cashin October 22, 2012 at 02:34 PM
What I can't figure out is why any parent would allow an 8 year old to go to a public bathroom unattended. Very stupid.
Brian October 22, 2012 at 03:07 PM
Really? That is an absurd statement. Unless he/she has specific developmental issues, no 8 year old child should be accompanied to a restroom at the Daily Treat. At age 8 you are in 4th grade. We used to be safety patrol at age 8. We walked to and from school and helped watch out for the younger kids.
longtimer66 October 22, 2012 at 03:26 PM
What James wrote was in no way slander, that's simply wrong. Also Patch did cover the event as an upcoming thing the other day. It's still on this site. And maybe they will do another article about the event, maybe not. They don't write about everything, but neither do most other news sources. Recently I asked they write about a tax lien sale, because it involved a house on Lotte Road which has caused a lot of outcry and anger since it's been under construction for ages. Patch def. had written sev. articles about that before - including protests made at Council meetings and other aspects of the story. So I thought it relevant they cover that the owners also seem to be behind in paying taxes for a long time per the public record which was on Village web site. But apparently the editors disagreed because no article was done. Just like a newspaper, that's why they have editors and they have a right to choose what to cover and not cover. It's their outlet after all, even though I disagreed with their "call" on that one. But to say what he wrote in this article was slander is just completely incorrect.
RB October 22, 2012 at 04:33 PM
Brian- So you think it's an absurd statement that no 8 year old should go into a public bathroom without a parent? Really?? "We used...." that's right, we USED. You can raise your children any way you want, but my 8 year old is not going into any public bathroom without my supervision. call me "old fashioned" and best of luck to you.
Brian October 22, 2012 at 08:45 PM
RB--Thanks. I will. Violent crime is at the lowest levels it has been since the numbers have been tracked. Much lower than the 1960s, 1970s or 1980s. I moved to Ridgewood so that I could be in a community. Communities work together, they don't teach their children to suspect that the other people in the Daily Treat want to hurt them. In fact, I want them to feel confident that everyone else in that restaurant is on their side. They are far more likely to be helped by a stranger than hurt by one. Do you know the odds of an abduction in a public restroom by someone unrelated to the child? (most child abductions are part of custody battles). Stranger abductions? Astronomical odds. A few dozen cases a year. Getting hit by lightning, twice, is much more likely. Look, right now with the current news of "lurings", it is easy to lose site of the bigger picture, I understand and acknowledge that some additional safety precautions are reasonable. But lets not throw the baby out with the bathwater.
Irene October 22, 2012 at 09:52 PM
Yes, I agree - what's wrong with this picture? Aren't kids these days taught to yell "Fire!" or something? My kids are practically grown, so I don't really know, but to follow the guy out to the back and see what he was riding? How many adults did he pass along the way? Were the parents able to see this child or were they too busy gabbing?
JAFO October 22, 2012 at 11:06 PM
+1
James Kleimann October 22, 2012 at 11:10 PM
Interesting comments here. Just out of curiosity – what age is appropriate to let kids walk to go to the bathroom without adult supervision? To follow up on that: at what age would you let them walk to school alone?
RB October 23, 2012 at 12:32 AM
James- The question is letting them go to the bathroom alone in a public place. Do you think you're a responsible parent allowing an 8 year old,regardless of gender, to go use the facilities at MetLife Stadium by himself? A turnpike rest area? A public restaurant like Daily Treat where the bathrooms are in that little hallway by the rear door? Seriously. Never mind what the odds are. Be a parent and look after your 8 year old. Sure, this kid knew what to say, but I'm willing to bet that the majority of 8 year olds would be very vulnerable.
Brian October 23, 2012 at 12:52 AM
It entirely depends on the child. The answer is when they can be trusted to get to the bathroom, wash hands and come back without making a mess of the bathroom or him/herself. I would say most kindergarteners use the bathroom in school alone so that is a good guide. Obviously I would want to keep a closer eye at Disney or a rest-stop and would be more apt to send my kids alone at a local restaurant.
Brian October 23, 2012 at 12:54 AM
As for walking to school, this is a huge issue for me. Part of the problem is that walking to school becomes exponentially safer when other kids are doing it. My concern isn't abduction it is tripping, getting distracted, etc. When there are kids from ages 5-10 all walking the same route the older kids naturally help keep the younger ones on target. Neighborhood kids all keep an eye out for each other. When there are fewer kids walking alone then the age has to become older. I think the answer depends on the route, the kid, etc. I am not at that point (my kids are not in school yet) so I don't know. Growing up in Glen Rock in the 1980s we started walking alone somewhere around 1st grade but again, there were neighbors going the same way.
James Kleimann October 23, 2012 at 01:00 AM
I appreciate your response, RB. All public places are not necessarily the same though, right? I would think there are stark differences between a rest stop bathroom and a restaurant bathroom in downtown Ridgewood. Are there some public places you would think are appropriate for an 8-year-old to go alone?
Elizabeth Cox October 23, 2012 at 01:58 AM
Actually you are a 3rd grader when you are 8. maybe he wanted to get some type of description to tell someone.
Elizabeth Cox October 23, 2012 at 02:01 AM
so now you are calling children liars? hysteria- really- you need help! you daont say hello to people in your neighborhood- glad you don't live in my neighborhood. how are children suppose to feel comfortable where they live if rude adults such as yourself don't even regard their existence- -
Elizabeth Cox October 23, 2012 at 02:03 AM
my 8 yr old can go IN the bathroom by himself but i am standing at the door-
RB October 23, 2012 at 03:47 AM
James- Just to answer your question, at 8 years old, I still feel they're too young to use a public restroom alone. I'm not talking about whether they're capable of washing their own hands etc. It's strictly a safety factor where I'm going with this. Listen, to each his own. It's just one mans opinion. It's all what you're comfortable with.
Moist Cake October 23, 2012 at 01:01 PM
"so now you are calling children liars?" Absolutely, I don't know if you have been living on a nuclear reactor but let me clue you into some obvious information. Children lie, exaggerate and when taught to report any suspicious events, regardless on intention, they will, thats why they are children. Now before you state that I am insensitive blah blah blah, let me explain a realist point of view to this situation because clearly, you buy into everything you read. I do believe that there are a few, few true incidents, most likely by the same one or two people but in reality most of these cases have been either A) Made up B) Overblown or C) Unfounded, which severely draws resources away from investigating real true incidents and finding those who really want to kidnap children. (again luring is a fishing term) This is hysteria by definition, nothing more and will cause a lot of innocent people hardship and perhaps jail. I strongly suggest you do not talk to any children other then who you know even in your own neighborhood, especially if your a male. People want absolute safety, it will come at the expense of freedom and being friendly, I guarantee it. Crimes have been going on since time began, we just hear about more now and with sensational reporting, its good for ratings and viewers to read about this. Its all about the money, hysteria pays well.
Irene October 23, 2012 at 01:05 PM
Of course, it goes without saying that it depends on the size of the place where you're at and the maturity of your child, etc. And an 8-year-old child is not necessarily in 3rd grade if they missed the cutoff date (i.e., Oct. 1) for the school year. But I still don't understand why this young boy took it upon himself to follow this guy - maybe he was in shock? Common sense would dictate that instead of following the guy, he would have alerted an adult and pointed out the man before he left. And this might be a stupid question, but I have to ask because I am a woman and don't really know: When little boys go to the men's room, do they go into a stall or do they use the urinals? That would also be a factor, no? I always took my son into the ladies room (as a single parent) when he was younger, so I don't really know.
Monique October 23, 2012 at 06:02 PM
I want to say a few things. I am a mother of 3 children 10, 7 and 2. I am also the wife of a biker. The rallies are fund raisers and bikers do NOT = bad people. On the other hand at this point in time when are are holding our children near bc of these attempts, there is no way I am allowing my children to go the the bathroom alone. I also agree that its odd the child didnt run to his parents bc without a doubt my children would be screaming. They have been taught to scream and run from the stranger. I also did safety patrol but that was 30 years ago and times have changed!
Martin Walker October 23, 2012 at 11:14 PM
There are no stupid questions! My son used the stall until he could reach the urinal, which was a point of pride for him, i.e. to be tall enough to reach. My sister in law, with 4 children under the age of 8, taught us the very helpful rule that boys old enough to use a restroom alone should only use the Women's in any public place. I am also reminded that in Colombia, S.A. there are many restaurants and Malls with separate bathrooms for children with mini urinals, stalls, sinks, etc. Ironically, I felt safer with my children there than any other place in the world.
Lisa A November 15, 2012 at 04:17 PM
WOW. I can see the OP (Lisa G) only cares about the reputation of the "bikers" and not the children in this community. Great article though, this is information all parents should heed. Even in your fancy community, evil can lurk. I watch my kids like a hawk, but I do not judge other parents for letting their kids use the restroom...you gotta let them go at some point and teach them how to function. Shame on you Lisa :(

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