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Village Improving Grove St. Road Conditions

Repaving of the tattered street may not come to spring, depending on the weather; traffic island being constructed to slow down speeders

As part of its initiation to the , the village has begun construction work to improve conditions on arguably its worst road – the pot hole-pocketed, speeder-heavy Grove Street. 

, around the Christmas lull the village began constructing a large traffic island on Grove St. near Paramus Rd. to reduce speeding.

"Whenever you build a road or start major construction, you take into consideration the safety of pedestrians and traffic flow," Killion said of the Complete Streets Project, a state initiative the village agreed to take part of in 2011.

The island, a few hundred feet long, is slated to have grass and small trees to fill the space when it's complete, likely within the month.

Those that travel Grove St. are likely less concerned with the speeding issue than they are with the quality of the road itself, which can bottom out cars due to massive potholes.

"We're trying to see if the weather holds up we can pave it," Killion said in an interview, adding that curb cut completion is still about three weeks out and the village may have to employ the "hot patching" method of filling pot holes over the winter.

"I've asked the Village Manager [Ken Gabbert] to try to clean up the road as well as possible, take care of as many of those potholes as possible and we'll begin paving in March if we can't get it done now."

The paving was originally projected to be completed in October, but storm recovery work from and the subsequent delayed efforts. [Editor's note – update on Friday, Jan. 6: the total project cost, including the island, is $258,900.]

"Unfortunately we would have liked to see projects like this done earlier but there have been a whole bunch of other things that sprung up this year," Killion said, stating that he understands commuters' frustrations.

"I live right off of Grove St. and travel it every day. My car is getting bumped up just as much as theirs. I want to get it done as fast as everyone else does."

Dominick Nizza January 02, 2012 at 01:36 PM
A $150,000 island to slow down traffic, what a joke.
Ken F. January 02, 2012 at 01:48 PM
The joke will be the return of the potholes in a couple of years if the drainage issue isn't addressed. Roads that have these recurring problems need to have the root cause corrected if repairs are to last.
Boyd A. Loving January 02, 2012 at 01:58 PM
An unintended consequence of the new traffic island is that some drivers traveling westbound on Grove Street from Paramus Road are now racing one another to arrive first at the island. Let's see how many traffic accidents take place between Paramus Road and where the island begins.
Dominick Nizza January 02, 2012 at 02:13 PM
It could have been tested with movable center concrete dividers but, still allow for a left turn on to the County path entrance I believe. How about some close-up photos of that section? Some kids still walk down to the river and fish a little.
RdgwdGRock January 02, 2012 at 04:15 PM
Dom and Boyd - At first this may seem like a joke, and drivers will speed up. But, I use Grove every day and drivers speed on Grove, esp that part. If coming from Paramus/Midland Roads, drivers speed up as the road narrows, so that they can get around other cars. Hopefully, the island will force drivers to slow down. As for the repaving, there willk always be escuses from the town to not get it done.
Dominick Nizza January 02, 2012 at 06:14 PM
If the Island's purpose is to slow down traffic there are photos posted here of inexpense movable dividers. Would that work?
Peter January 02, 2012 at 07:09 PM
Dom, the $150k cost is for the entire repaving of Grove St, not the island.
RdgwdGRock January 02, 2012 at 07:35 PM
No
Jim January 02, 2012 at 09:11 PM
I have been living off of Grove since 1976, and they need a island now. What a joke. The road should have been done a long time ago. It's as usual with the village the lawns section is always an after thought.
maureen January 03, 2012 at 12:27 AM
This road is a nightmare ! I need to fix my teeth after bumping around in my car traveling on it. The town has been promising to fix it for years now, but I've only seen slovenly patchwork. It needs to be done now , rather than waiting until Spring for another 'weather excuse " to arise.
Mike Kilhaney January 03, 2012 at 01:40 AM
Dominick is right and Peter is wrong. $150,000 for an "unnecessary" island on Grove Street is just plain wrong economics for taxpayers( either Glen Rock or Ridgewood). Perhaps someone can get some correct facts as to properly inform the taxpayers of what REAL COSTS ARE AND WHAT THEY ARE FOR ? In the current realities and climate, taxpayers need facts rather than MORE political "mouthwash" !
Mike Kilhaney January 03, 2012 at 02:13 AM
Maureen....You state "This road is a nightmare !" This is perhaps bit overstated, but facts are that there are NO roads within Ridgewood and Glen Rock that should need serious attention. We pay "VERY HIGH TAXES" for this reason ! Perhaps your "school system" is eating up almost ALL (80% ?) of your tax $$ dollars ? How would a Sr.Citizen ( no children in school system ) feel about that who ALSO rides down Grove Street daily ? How badly do you "need to fix.. teeth after bumping around.." on Grove Street ?
Mike Kilhaney January 03, 2012 at 02:17 AM
Please advise.
Pete McKenna January 03, 2012 at 02:47 AM
If you ask a traffic engineer, they will tell you that narrower roads discourage speeding and wider roads encourage speeding. The current road conditions tremendously discourage speeding. I think it is a good idea to put in the island to reduce speeding and I think it is fiscally responsible to do it before the road is re-paved. Check with the citizen's safety committee if it is still in existence.
Peter January 03, 2012 at 03:13 AM
James, can you please clarify what the $150,000 amount represents? Some readers are inferring that it represents the cost of the island.
Steve Holder January 03, 2012 at 12:45 PM
The solution is simple.. leave the potholes.. that will slow down traffic.. just kidding, I use that road daily it's very bad. The island, I am not so sure.. most pedestrian and traffic accidents seem to occur in the CBD, not that area. Maybe if the bike path under Grove was made less susceptible to flooding bike path users would not have to leave the path and cross over Grove at that point.
T. Powers January 03, 2012 at 03:30 PM
The road does get very deep potholes in the winter. I would guess the island would be used for people trying to cross the street at that juncture. Run from one side, get to the island, wait for traffic and dash to the opposite side. As for the senior citizen issue that was brought up, most people benefit from a public education - the seniors that got theirs, their children and grandchildren.
sean mccooe January 03, 2012 at 09:34 PM
Surprised such a hot button - start tracking the # of crashes at this site - mostly single vehicle . Traffic calming or people inflaming ?
sean mccooe January 03, 2012 at 09:35 PM
agreed - accidents in the offing
James Kleimann January 06, 2012 at 11:18 PM
Hello to all, A brief update: the total cost for Grove St. repairs – including the island – is $258,900 and $150,000 is covered by a DOT grant.
Dominick Nizza January 07, 2012 at 03:01 AM
So, the full cost is $258,900 with the net cost to the Village at $150,000 not $37,000? That's $71,900 more--right?
James Kleimann January 07, 2012 at 04:14 AM
Village pays $108,900 total for all the work.

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