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School Officials Again Seeking Parking Shuffle at RHS

The schools are again hoping the village council will allow teachers to take over parking at Heermance Place, effectively kicking out students.

Ridgewood schools superintendent Daniel Fishbein and board president Sheila Brogan are expected to appear at the council Wednesday night to again request that the village cede public parking on Heermance Place.

This past spring, the prior council voted unanimously to deny the school's request that 12 public parking spots be designated specifically for teachers. Students currently wake up early to nab the spots.

Fishbein in his March request said several teachers are without parking spots; he believed employees should be afforded the opportunity to park where they work. The spots would have been granted by permit, allowing teachers to park on the street from 7 a.m. to 4 p.m. Monday-Friday.

The council in its denial expressed concern in "creating a precedent."

Village and schools officials will meet at 7:30 p.m. to discuss the matter.

Michael December 05, 2012 at 12:19 PM
After seeing 9 years of some teachers pulling in the parking lot at 8am and beyond, I'd vote to let them park at Graydon and walk. The early bird...
Gene Callaghan December 05, 2012 at 12:40 PM
When did it become right to park at work?
James Jr. December 05, 2012 at 01:00 PM
Although I disagree with taking public spots and converting them into private permit spots -- if this really needs to be done -- why don't they give half of the spots to teachers and half to students. Have a lottery for the spots and charge them $500 or so like the chruch does.
maureen December 05, 2012 at 01:13 PM
Where does the entitlement end ? Ask the nurses who work at HUMC who have to park in an FDU lot and take a shuttle bus to work . It is a privilege to possess a job that allows 3 months off, paid holidays, superb benefits, and a nice environment. Get out of bed a little earlier and stop whining. The students who get those spots do.
thetentman December 05, 2012 at 03:07 PM
If the town employs someone, the town should provide parking. If you do it for some you should do it for all. Take away some student parking and make them walk.
Ridgewood Mom December 05, 2012 at 04:31 PM
There should be something obviously wrong about teachers having to compete with their students for a place to park. Should both teachers and students be given equal right to contest over the curriculum and methods of teaching in the classroom as well?
Ridgewood Mom December 05, 2012 at 04:51 PM
HUMC is in a semi urban area so parking is a very different sort of thing there then it is in Ridgewood. Anyway, my understanding is that many doctors do have special reserved parking spots there. Please correct me if that is wrong. Most hospitals do.
Ridgewood Mom December 05, 2012 at 04:54 PM
It had been the normal thing for most of the twentieth century. But many large private sector businesses started eliminating it in recent decades, as is the case for pensions and many other decent sorts of benefits.
Bob Hutton December 05, 2012 at 06:30 PM
I would simply say that I hope the Council can see their way clear to grant the request being made by the Board of Education.
Anne LaGrange Loving December 05, 2012 at 06:44 PM
I think that students and teachers absolutely have the same rights when it comes to parking. I have taught at four colleges and in each case the students and professors all parked in the same lot or garage. This never bothered me at all. Never did I think I deserved anything more special than a student in terms of parking. Is there a suggestion that students are less important human beings? In the case of Ridgewood, the students are all members of taxpaying families, so in some cases you could say they have more of a right to park on the street than a teacher who lives in another town. I agree with the decision that the Council made in the past, but I will wait to see the entire proposal in case there is something different this time. You are comparing parking spots with curriculum and teaching methods, come on, seriously?
JAFO December 05, 2012 at 07:22 PM
+1
Kathleen December 05, 2012 at 08:54 PM
Just an idea...maybe the spots could be auctioned off at the "learning commons" fund raiser...that way the proceeds from the auctioned off parking spots would benefit the students, the teachers and the administrators..sometimes you have to "pony up" and if a teacher would like one of those spots then bid on it at the auction. Our taxes are not updating the public high school library, the parents are on the hook once again. I work and live in town and I am not guaranteed a parking spot, I either walk the mile or park on the street and pay the meters and try to move my car every two hours. Sorry Mr. Fishbein this time I do not think you are on target!
Elizabeth Cox December 05, 2012 at 08:59 PM
no they park in the parking garage- there is a section for them but that's it (HUMC)
Elizabeth Cox December 05, 2012 at 09:01 PM
why should they have to walk? they get up get ready & go. if they are late, they know they are parking far- so, why shouldn't the same be sadi for teachers. just bc they are kids they have to suffer?
RHS senior December 06, 2012 at 02:37 AM
All the students who park there get up early to get it, and it isn't like teachers can't park there. Chuck Johnson (I know many people don't like him, and yes, he is a nut) parks there every single day because he gets there at six am every day because he cares about his job. AS A GYM TEACHER, he gets there earlier than most teachers do. Any teacher who doesn't get to school before students should be forced to walk so that they learn to do their job. The teachers that are getting there after eight are jokes and don't even try and teach, and believe me, that is not an exaggeration. Bottom line is, if they care, they get a spot.
James Kleimann December 06, 2012 at 04:45 AM
I'll be writing up a full article later on, but here's a brief update: In a 3-2 decision, the council has decided to grant the school board's request. A resolution is expected next week, Dec. 12. Here are the specs: the 23 parking spots on Heermance will be taken over by district staff Monday-Friday. Students (and really any resident not employed by the BOE) will not be allowed to park there during school hours. In addition, the south side of Beverly will also be permitted parking, but again only for teachers. Superintendent Dan Fishbein said this should open between 5-10 spots for visitors at the main lot. Aronsohn, Pucciarelli and Hauck were in favor of ceding the public parking to the BOE while Walsh and Riche were against it.
James Kleimann December 06, 2012 at 04:56 AM
Let me correct part of my last statement: Any formal adoption can only come through ordinance, so January would be the earliest date.
Boyd A. Loving December 06, 2012 at 06:30 AM
The mere suggestion that non-tax paying BOE employees should be given the right to "bump" the children of taxpayers from public parking spots on a Village owned and maintained street is just absurd. I do hope that ALL who are opposed to such a ridiculous proposal write to Mayor Aronsohn, Councilwoman Hauck, and Deputy Mayor Pucciarelli.
AMAMOM December 06, 2012 at 02:32 PM
Might this set a dangerous precedence? Can any businesses in town now petition the council for control of spots in front of their or adjacent to their businesses? Couldn't Valley now ask for employee only parking on Van Dien and Linwood- Why not? How about dedicated spots in front of restaurants on Ridgewood Ave?
Just Watching December 06, 2012 at 03:13 PM
Seems like a great place for parking meters. Let them decide.
william knutsen December 06, 2012 at 03:40 PM
RHS is not a business. Yours William Knutsen
RidgewoodResident December 06, 2012 at 03:47 PM
I don't really like the idea of setting a precedent that allows property owners to claim public parking spots in front of their property, but I think it's a fair compromise to let the teachers park on Hermance in exchange for opening up Brookside to student (public) parking. It's one of the widest streets in Ridgewood already, and as long as parking is not allowed within a certain distance of the street corners, it wouldn't really disrupt traffic.
Lawrence December 06, 2012 at 07:20 PM
Heermance Place belongs to us, the taxpayers of the Village, not the BOE, not RHS, etc. I believe this is a very dangerous precedent. My business doesn't guarantee me parking; my spouse pays for parking at her place of business. Why should teachers be given parking spots? Although less than ideal, I agree that, perhaps, we should exam opening up one side of surrounding streets for parking.
Ridgewood Mom December 06, 2012 at 10:39 PM
It does not make any sense to consider whether students, as taxpayers, should get precedence over teachers because Ridgewood high school students aren't tax payers. Their parents are. What makes sense is to ask parents, as tax payers, whether they really think that the most intelligent function of the school system is to treat their children like little princes and princesses with teachers understood to be their servants, butlers and nannies. Or whether it makes more better sense, as tax payers, that we support our teachers as dignified community leaders in order to help empower them to be as effective as possible at educating our children. Personally, I couldn't care less if my boys get caviar and manicures when they attend school. I would prefer that they look up to their teachers as a means of improving themselves, and so that they can get the best possible education.
RidgewoodResident December 07, 2012 at 05:38 PM
Oh please with the hyperbole, Ridgewood Mom. Students and teachers having equal access to parking is not the same as an equal voice on the curriculum, and students having a place to park if they wake up early enough is not caviar and manicures.
Gene Callaghan December 07, 2012 at 07:16 PM
Great compromise..Open up Brookside to student parking like it used to be.
Ridgewood Mom December 07, 2012 at 10:39 PM
RidgewoodResident, With reference to the point that I made using those analogies, how is it different?
Joann December 08, 2012 at 01:02 AM
Ouch, Maureen. Entitlement? Sound like someone hates or is jealous of the teachers. Where does your anger come from? Also, not one person has mentioned respect in these comments. When I was a child (and that's what the kids at the hight school are), I respected my elders and would understand that they deserved certain privileges that I, as a child, would hopefully earn someday when I grew up. It's time some of these parents show an example to their children and respect the teachers, cafeteria and custodial staff by allowing them to simply park where they work.

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