Crossing Guard: Eliminating Crosswalk at Travell a 'Terrible' Idea

Removing crosswalk on Bogert would add to safety hazard, veteran Ridgewood crossing guard Sandy Bartlett contends.

The following was submitted by Sandy Bartlett, a 10-year crossing guard at Meadowbrook and Fairfield near Travell Elementary School. The on Wednesday, Aug. 8.

The idea of eliminating the crosswalk on Bogert is terrible. Before school the drop off line often extends onto Glen and goes down as far as Fairfield. Eliminating the crosswalk and the ability of parents to park and walk their child across would add many more cars to the drop off line, making more of a hazard on Glen.

Putting a speed bump on Fairfield both before and after the Stop sign would slow down the speeders and reduce the speeding cars, of which there are many. I have requested painting "Stop ahead" on the Meadowbrook many times. Cars constantly run the signs or barely make a fast rolling stop--especially while turning. Many do not stop even when I am in the middle of the street with my stop sign crossing children.

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Concerned Ridgewood Dad July 30, 2012 at 10:30 AM
I agree with Sandy. Speed bumps would go a long way towards slowing drivers down and making the streets safer for everybody.
jp1 July 30, 2012 at 12:04 PM
Police in town should give more tickets to those speeding and not just a warning because they live in town.
Andrew J July 30, 2012 at 04:59 PM
I agree; thanks for your input, Sandy. There are way too many people speeding down Glenn past Travell despite the speed indicators. More police enforcement is needed and speed bumps would help.
RdgwdGRock July 30, 2012 at 08:28 PM
too many people speeding period
Laura Johnson July 31, 2012 at 12:21 AM
Agree with Sandy as well. Speed bumps would help alert anyone driving in the neighborhood that there is a school nearby... and to slow down. Also agree with the other comments for speeding on Glen. Ticket people and they will realize it's not a freeway!
Johnny Tran July 31, 2012 at 03:42 AM
I never stop at that sign there during morning drop off time because of all the people that try to cross the street when I stop. Once you stop, a never ending sea of the Brady Bunch start to use the crosswalk. Coasting through the sign usually prevents that. Speed bumps would worsen the situation and create more traffic.
Andrew J July 31, 2012 at 02:02 PM
I really hope that was meant to be sarcastic. Anyone who sees someone routinely run a stop sign especially near a school should record that license plate and record the idiot's action with their camera phone to make local police aware. I'm sure parents and neighbors would not mind knowing about such a person either.
thetentman July 31, 2012 at 02:15 PM
Someone please lock Johnny Tran up
Concerned resident of wood July 31, 2012 at 02:31 PM
@Andrew, because we can all just whip out our camera phones and record within a fraction of 1-2 seconds right? I'm sorry but I don't think that this will be a very useful solution. The best solution would be to close all roads near the schools while school is in session
Johnny Tran July 31, 2012 at 02:37 PM
You guys make me out to be a bad guy, but you're all the ones creating traffic jams in the morning by stopping at the sign. I'm not like running people over on the crosswalk or anything, I'm just coasting through the sign. If the pedestrians see that you're not going to stop, they won't enter the crosswalk. Problem solved.
thetentman July 31, 2012 at 03:00 PM
Johnny, if you are rolling through a STOP sign, then you are a BAD guy. No ifs and or buts.
Johnny Tran July 31, 2012 at 03:12 PM
Why am I a bad guy for rolling through a crosswalk? Have I ran anyone over? The answer is no. If I'm not hurting anyone and can increase the flow of traffic, why shouldn't I? I'm doing the community a service and this is how I am treated?
thetentman July 31, 2012 at 03:17 PM
So it's OK to roll through a STOP if no one gets hurt? Traffic laws should be ignored if doing so won't hurt anyone? So now it is not just my opinion but this man has proven he is an IDIOT.
Johnny Tran July 31, 2012 at 03:19 PM
Traffic laws are just general guidelines, not to be followed to the exact letter. Have you never driven over the speed limit? How about change lanes or make a turn without using a turn signal? I'm pretty sure the world won't explode if you do any of these things.
thetentman July 31, 2012 at 03:27 PM
STOP signs in school zones are NOT guidlines. They are safety features that carry the force of law. Whether one has ever sped before is irrelevant and a distraction to the fact that you advocate not following traffic laws. You sir are a danger to society and if I catch you rolling through that stop sign you will regret it.
Johnny Tran July 31, 2012 at 03:30 PM
You are so wrong. All traffic laws are general guidelines that should be followed most of the time, with exceptions. A busy school zone in the morning is one of these exceptions. If a car were to stop every time someone was near that crosswalk, we'd be sitting there for hours. And you'd never be able to catch me because I always roll through it, that's the beauty of it. I've been getting away with it for years.
thetentman July 31, 2012 at 03:44 PM
Keep going John. I did not think you could make yourself look worse but you are apparently very good at it.
Andrew J July 31, 2012 at 04:01 PM
Concerned, It's not that hard to catch a photo of someone rolling through a stop sign, but of course most of us have different phones and different levels of familiarity with our phones. It wasn't offered as a solution, more as a deterrent against cowards who repeatedly break the law and put everyone at risk and think they will just keep getting away with it. I agree with your idea of closing the roads.
Andrew J July 31, 2012 at 04:03 PM
Johnny has to be a troll. Probably someone who thinks he/she is being funny
Gabe Alpert July 31, 2012 at 04:43 PM
I think the speed bumps are a great idea. Andrew, what is a troll? I dont understand it
Andrew J July 31, 2012 at 05:19 PM
Hi Gabe, Here's an excerpt from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Troll_(Internet) -In Internet slang, a troll is someone who posts inflammatory, extraneous, or off-topic messages in an online community, such as an online discussion forum, chat room, or blog, with the primary intent of provoking readers into an emotional response or of otherwise disrupting normal on-topic discussion.
Johnny Tran July 31, 2012 at 05:21 PM
Congratulations, you've just completely discredited yourself and everything you've said by showing us that you use Wikipedia. Anyone can edit information on Wikipedia and therefore the information that is posted on that site is unreliable and should not be used by anyone.
thetentman July 31, 2012 at 05:38 PM
Except this time, Wiki is right you are a TROLL.
Here since the 50s July 31, 2012 at 08:10 PM
I'm in favor of the speed bumps too. In Rockland, they have "berms" (wider bumps) at many locations near schools, along with very visible signage and road markings. They stagger them on each side of the road. Seems to work pretty well up there. Johnny's stated views seem a big part of the problem. Why not become part of the solution? Sounds like a prime candidate for one of those defensive driving courses to me. And.... they reduce any points plus you get insurance discounts. No points you say? Keep doing what you wrote you always do, seems a sure-fire point getter. Oh, and tell the judge traffic laws are guidelines.. might get "bonus" points. There's way too much speeding and "divine right of me" attitude by drivers all over town - near schools and many other places. Way back in another time I actually was a safety patrol kid at the same intersection the orig poster talked about. Also at Glen and Fairfield, Glen and Van Dien.and other locations. More kids in the schools back then -- but many of those spots were handled by safety patrol kids. We got some supervision from teachers, a little training from police, and a whistle and a flag -- pretty quaint, huh? We would go out in the street with the flag to stop traffic and help other kids cross. It actually worked pretty well. The traffic was heavy back then too, but fewer people tried to go 40 or more in 25 mph zones. Most were also more courteous drivers than you see too often now.
Jeanette L August 06, 2012 at 03:56 AM
Having had 3 children go to Travell, I have to agree about the speed bumps. I think they would be a good deterrent. And having almost been struck by people driving through the Meadowbrook Ave. intersection, who have disregarded the stop signs, I am glad I was driving NOT walking. Johnny forgets that children are involved and have a habit of darting out, not always listening to crossing guards or other adults. In fact, a friend who moved away and was a crossing guard for Sommerville on No. Van Dien near the high school, at two diagonal corners, used to tell me horror stories of the poor driving of people like high school student drivers speeding and adults who should know better. Once an adult male, nearly ran her over when she was on the sidewalk! His wife, who was in the car, looked mortified. And she had trained the children to only cross when she told them too because she was terrified that one of them would be run over. The real problem is the poor driving skills and arrogance of those drivers who refuse to wait for the pedestrian, who legally, comes first. In fact the town is finally enforcing that in the middle of town by giving out summonses! It may make sense to you now driving illegally, Johnny, just pray you don't run over someone's child and then have to live with it for the rest of your life.
George P August 08, 2012 at 01:57 PM
About 15 years ago, I had a petition signed by the neighbors on Fairfield and Meadowbrook to submit to the town for improved safety at that intersection. There were numerous car accidents. The town came back to us and comcluded by police reports it was a dangerous area. Improvements included larger stop signs, adding stop signs on the opposite side of the street and large painted crosswalk lines. I've been here 20 years and 90% of the accidents are from those heading away from Valley Hospital towards Fairfield. Another problem could be solves, just not here but many areas....trim the trees that are near these signs. See for yourself.


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